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#22381 08-09-20 09:13

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

¿Soy el único que ve con cierta preocupación el Fondo E como refugio? Dejo gráfico de este fondo, más abajo. Anteriormente, el alza con pendiente alta vino seguida de una caída estrepitosa, por lo que  quizás venga una correción no menor próximamente. Pienso seriamente en ir al Fondo C mientras se definen los extremos.

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#22382 08-09-20 09:39

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Asi es, aqui hay un gran riesgo. Las tasas no pueden bajar indefinidamente y por ende q suba fondo E. Cuando tasas vuelvan a normalidad se pegara su buen bajón. Mientras tanto que hacer ver desarrollo de SP500 vs ver desarrollo de tasas.

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#22383 08-09-20 10:31

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Pero si suben las tasas, ¿dónde queda la reactivación?  La subida del E ha estado gentilmente auspiciada por el Banco Central, no veo cómo pueda retirar el estimulo. Pero tampoco veo que lo aumente y el E siga ganando. Quizá haya que evaluar dónde se pierde menos.

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#22384 08-09-20 11:22

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Las "caída estrepitosa" o corrección no menor han sido a causa de eventos nacionales, esto es Oct-19(estallido) y Marzo-20(covid-19). Se esperaba una corrección con el tema 10% pero no ocurrió tal. En Octubre vuelve a ponerse feo el panorama nacional por plebiscito por lo que hay que estar atento en esa fecha, pero para entonces espero estar en A pues las elecciones en USA "tendrían" que levantar el fondo A y hay que aprovecharlo. Me mantengo en el E mientras sea el que menos esté bajando, obvio.


outsider1984 escribió:

¿Soy el único que ve con cierta preocupación el Fondo E como refugio? Dejo gráfico de este fondo, más abajo. Anteriormente, el alza con pendiente alta vino seguida de una caída estrepitosa, por lo que  quizás venga una correción no menor próximamente. Pienso seriamente en ir al Fondo C mientras se definen los extremos.

http://www.chilebolsa.com/foro/uploads/53679_fe.jpg

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#22385 08-09-20 18:01

Steven
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Hola estimados, dejo gráfico semanal de Habitat A.
47316_20200908_habitat_a_semanal.png
La corrección anterior bucó la ema de 9 en semanal, puede que ahora igual.

El spx500*usdclp está en nivel de posibilidades para rebote. Pero como está mal el panorama es probable que lo rompa el soporte (en rsi), ya que sirvió en tendencia alcista y en lateralización. Por el momento se ve bajista
https://www.tradingview.com/x/RGwNyWte/

Saludos estimados


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22386 08-09-20 19:05

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

F&F 100% al E

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#22387 08-09-20 20:24

verberr
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

AlejoBM escribió:

F&F 100% al E


Entonces mañana inicia alza el A

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#22388 09-09-20 06:18

Flau
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Ahora que usa rebota se van al E?...

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#22389 09-09-20 06:58

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Flau escribió:

Ahora que usa rebota se van al E?...

Ojo con el dolar...
https://www.acfondos.cl/joomla/valores


salu2

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#22390 09-09-20 07:54

polipatof
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

El Dólar le está pegando fuerte al avance del A

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#22391 09-09-20 13:28

Glein
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

buen rebote del S&P500 pero el dolar amortiguo el impacto, el ipsa...uff el ipsa a nadie. Aun es muy arriesgado migrar al A, me mantengo 60%E para resguardo y 40% C para aprovechar en algo las buenas noticias


Ex Padawan en  Renta Fija........ Hoy Garante del sistema :)

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#22392 10-09-20 15:48

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

la holgura del dorar hoy ayudará empuja positivo valor cuota para el lunes. Así que evaluó mañana viernes el cambio al E.


Si usted está en un juego de póker durante veinte minutos y no sabe quién es el tonto de la mesa, entonces usted es el tonto

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#22393 10-09-20 15:59

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Les tinca esto para el A? (mirando el pseudo A)
https://www.tradingview.com/x/J6XBoVDC/
(Creo que sería más optimismo del necesario)

Pero por otro lado, el spx500*usdclp está resistiendo zona de soporte..
https://www.tradingview.com/x/yqInYibB/

Creo que al S&P500 le faltaría por caer


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22394 10-09-20 16:01

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Steven escribió:

Pero por otro lado, el spx500*usdclp está resistiendo zona de soporte..
https://www.tradingview.com/x/yqInYibB/

Era zona de soporte de RSI, sorry


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22395 11-09-20 14:31

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

DiosHomero escribió:

la holgura del dorar hoy ayudará empuja positivo valor cuota para el lunes. Así que evaluó mañana viernes el cambio al E.

Postergo mi decisión de cambio al A para el lunes.

creo que los aires de sentimiento bajista se diluyen, o es solo una pausa para irse al infierno la semana que viene


Si usted está en un juego de póker durante veinte minutos y no sabe quién es el tonto de la mesa, entonces usted es el tonto

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#22396 11-09-20 16:15

DiosHomero
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

DiosHomero escribió:
DiosHomero escribió:

la holgura del dorar hoy ayudará empuja positivo valor cuota para el lunes. Así que evaluó mañana viernes el cambio al E.

Postergo mi decisión de cambio al A para el lunes.

creo que los aires de sentimiento bajista se diluyen, o es solo una pausa para irse al infierno la semana que viene

perdón, es hacia el E


Si usted está en un juego de póker durante veinte minutos y no sabe quién es el tonto de la mesa, entonces usted es el tonto

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#22397 15-09-20 17:55

Steven
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Hola estimados, dejo gráfico Habitat A+2
Está tornándose interesante, pero todavía en el E por acá.
47316_20200915_habitat_a_y_estimacion_dos_dias.png

Saludos estimados


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22398 16-09-20 14:09

DiosHomero
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Estoy fijándome que cuando hay más volatilidad en los mercados, las estimaciones son menos certeras


Si usted está en un juego de póker durante veinte minutos y no sabe quién es el tonto de la mesa, entonces usted es el tonto

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#22399 16-09-20 14:57

Steven
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Me parece que a veces la estimación negativa sale más negativa y la positiva más positiva. En realidad puede pasar cualquier cosa xD


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22400 16-09-20 17:05

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Las estimaciones estan basadas en variaciones dentro de cierto rango. Cuando algun factor se dispara es logico que se salga de ese rango y escapa de la curva de regresión


Atafp2016@gmail.com
"Lo malo de un cambio de fondo, es que no sabremos si fue un buen cambio, hasta el día siguiente de hacer otro cambio"

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#22401 17-09-20 21:43

RRRatix
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Cuantos golozos se quedaron pegados en el Fondo A ?  Al parecer se viene otra ola de contagio fuerte en Europa,  muy atentos a su evolución.

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#22402 18-09-20 15:25

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Sin embargo de lo que  he eveluado la curva de regresion se sigue manteniendo.
Pero como comente repetidas veces,  achuntarle a un dia en particular, esa es otra metodologia analitica, no sirven las regresiones.

mekaniko escribió:

Las estimaciones estan basadas en variaciones dentro de cierto rango. Cuando algun factor se dispara es logico que se salga de ese rango y escapa de la curva de regresión

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#22403 21-09-20 07:14

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

https://www.df.cl/noticias/mercados/bol … 84145.html

bn días post 18!
sigue fea la cosa en renta variable... dolar amortiguando el horrible día en bolsas mundiales.. rebrote covid aguando la fiesta...
mes para el olvido en todos los fondos. sigo "resguardado" (perdiendo) en el e.

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#22404 21-09-20 08:03

RRRatix
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

De terror las bolsas  !!!


Logosum escribió:

https://www.df.cl/noticias/mercados/bol … 84145.html

bn días post 18!
sigue fea la cosa en renta variable... dolar amortiguando el horrible día en bolsas mundiales.. rebrote covid aguando la fiesta...
mes para el olvido en todos los fondos. sigo "resguardado" (perdiendo) en el e.

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#22405 21-09-20 10:14

Steven
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Está feo el gráfico del pseudo A (-0,70% aprox)
https://www.tradingview.com/x/Z5OZj8LQ/


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22406 21-09-20 12:57

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Flau escribió:

Ahora que usa rebota se van al E?...

Gordito de F&F la hizo de nuevo.... ese rebote fue un dia después del cambio de fondo.... pero desde ese día hasta ahora el gordito y sus predicciones han andado bien.

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#22407 21-09-20 17:41

Steven
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

AlejoBM escribió:
Flau escribió:

Ahora que usa rebota se van al E?...

Gordito de F&F la hizo de nuevo.... ese rebote fue un dia después del cambio de fondo.... pero desde ese día hasta ahora el gordito y sus predicciones han andado bien.

Si es así, salió positivo hacia el E.  Qué bueno, por el bien de todos los que los siguen (valga la redundancia).


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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#22408 21-09-20 20:03

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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Si bien aun le falta un poco a la correcion, es clave ver cuando ese RSI se da la vuelta.

Steven escribió:

Está feo el gráfico del pseudo A (-0,70% aprox)
https://www.tradingview.com/x/Z5OZj8LQ/

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#22409 Ayer 07:29

benjamax
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

El problema es ver hasta donde llega esta corrección. Y si la subida posterior es profitable.

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#22410 Ayer 13:23

Steven
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Re: Análisis técnico fondos de pensiones

Al E le dieron como saco de golpear, aprox -0,30%


La rentabilidad es variable, por lo que nada garantiza que las rentabilidades pasadas se repitan en el futuro.

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