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#14641 30-08-16 06:29

benjamax
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Re: CAP

wilsonequi escribió:

...... me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. .....

Mishhh

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#14642 30-08-16 06:32

gokkuu
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Re: CAP

en pedir no hay engaño jaja

benjamax escribió:
wilsonequi escribió:

...... me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. .....

Mishhh


"Tu mejor consejero será la experiencia.. "
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#14643 30-08-16 06:35

fjcaldero
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Re: CAP

Gracias por el dato smile

Skross escribió:
fjcaldero escribió:
Skross escribió:

The Steel Index (TSI) is pleased to send you today's Iron Ore Reference Prices, for 30 August 2016.

TSI Benchmark Iron Ore Spot Prices, Chinese Imports (1-day % change):

- 62% Fe fines, CFR Tianjin Port: US$ 59.0 /dry metric tonne (+0.3%)
- 58% Fe 1.5% Al fines, CFR Qingdao Port: US$ 51.0 /dry metric tonne (-0.6%)

TSI Iron Ore Spot Reference Prices, Chinese Imports (1-day % change):

- 62% Fe 2% Al fines, CFR Qingdao Port: US$ 59.3 /dry metric tonne
- 63.5/63% Fe fines, CFR Qingdao Port: US$ 60.1 /dry metric tonne
- 65% Fe fines, CFR Qingdao Port: US$ 68.2 /dry metric tonne

Skross, de donde obtienes esos datos??? please.

https://www.thesteelindex.com/

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#14644 30-08-16 06:35

Maragume
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Re: CAP

wilsonequi escribió:

Cuando Cap va en subida todos comentan a cada rato, y ahora nadie... soy novato (mucho diría yo), pero por lo que me he dado cuenta los gráficos no siven de mucho, si no mas bien, otras cosas, por ejemplo, precio del hierro, costos, revisar los mercados extranjeros que afectan cap u otra empresa. Mi humilde opinión, me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. Si estoy equivocado pido disculpas.

Me causó risa su comentario. Pero está bien, los años de circo le irán diciendo lo que es mejor para su sistema de Trading.


Toda crisis es una oportunidad...

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#14645 30-08-16 06:42

Glein
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Re: CAP

wilsonequi escribió:

Cuando Cap va en subida todos comentan a cada rato, y ahora nadie... soy novato (mucho diría yo), pero por lo que me he dado cuenta los gráficos no siven de mucho, si no mas bien, otras cosas, por ejemplo, precio del hierro, costos, revisar los mercados extranjeros que afectan cap u otra empresa. Mi humilde opinión, me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. Si estoy equivocado pido disculpas.

No esta ni equivocado ni en lo correcto pero el análisis fundamental si existe solo ve unas páginas atrás y podrás notarlo lo que pasa es que acá el AT es dinámico y como se analiza casi minuto a minuto OBVIAMENTE genera más datos que los que podamos leer de los fundamentales que extraemos del mercado ... además están tu horizonte de inversión a mí me gusta una estrategia no tan activa y me respaldo el cómo dices el análisis fundamental , pero siempre pendiente del AT y manteniendo mis conocimientos actualizados ( el conocimiento como el dinero nunca estan de mas) pero los CP necesitan otras herramientas como el AT y x eso que se genera tanta info y comentario, no es que no exista análisis fundamental , es que el AT genera mas data e información..

Por último y no lo tomes en mala o como personal .. aca la infotrmacion es libre y gratis asi que no puedes exigir a lo mas sugerir


Ex Padawan en  Renta Fija........ Hoy Garante del sistema :)

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#14646 30-08-16 06:45

Pedrots
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Re: CAP

wilsonequi escribió:

Cuando Cap va en subida todos comentan a cada rato, y ahora nadie... soy novato (mucho diría yo), pero por lo que me he dado cuenta los gráficos no siven de mucho, si no mas bien, otras cosas, por ejemplo, precio del hierro, costos, revisar los mercados extranjeros que afectan cap u otra empresa. Mi humilde opinión, me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. Si estoy equivocado pido disculpas.

Es porque estaba entretenida, y ahora se volvió una acción fome, una del montón.

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#14647 30-08-16 07:05

Rolex
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Re: CAP

wilsonequi escribió:

Cuando Cap va en subida todos comentan a cada rato, y ahora nadie... soy novato (mucho diría yo), pero por lo que me he dado cuenta los gráficos no siven de mucho, si no mas bien, otras cosas, por ejemplo, precio del hierro, costos, revisar los mercados extranjeros que afectan cap u otra empresa. Mi humilde opinión, me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. Si estoy equivocado pido disculpas.

Mi amigo si sirven mas los datos que los graficos, dese la molestia junto a la humilde opinion, de buscarlos e interpretarlos.

Tema aparte, el nivel de algunos usuarios aca es casi sicopatico, le piden a otros que hagan el trabajo, mandan mensajes privados insultando cuando alguien no les responde por aca.

Una lastima.


Real estate cannot be lost or stolen, nor can it be carried away. Purchased with common sense, paid for in full, and managed with reasonable care, it is about the safest investment in the world

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#14648 30-08-16 07:08

LuckyLeaks
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Re: CAP

Mira, esto es simple, te gusten o no los gráficos una vez alguien posteó un monito en donde salía que los rendimientos de una persona usando AT le ganaban por bastante a una usando AF.

Así, si te gustan las lucas, sería recomendable no menospreciar ni ignorar los grafiquitos creo yo, al menos si te gustan las lucas.

Cada cual con su librito, pero a mi parecer, las lucas mandan.

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#14649 30-08-16 07:12

Eljota
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Re: CAP

Pedrots escribió:
wilsonequi escribió:

Cuando Cap va en subida todos comentan a cada rato, y ahora nadie... soy novato (mucho diría yo), pero por lo que me he dado cuenta los gráficos no siven de mucho, si no mas bien, otras cosas, por ejemplo, precio del hierro, costos, revisar los mercados extranjeros que afectan cap u otra empresa. Mi humilde opinión, me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. Si estoy equivocado pido disculpas.

Es porque estaba entretenida, y ahora se volvió una acción fome, una del montón.

Ojalá se vuelva a poner entretenida, fue bueno ver tanto comentario

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#14650 30-08-16 07:15

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Re: CAP

LuckyLeaks escribió:

Mira, esto es simple, te gusten o no los gráficos una vez alguien posteó un monito en donde salía que los rendimientos de una persona usando AT le ganaban por bastante a una usando AF.

Así, si te gustan las lucas, sería recomendable no menospreciar ni ignorar los grafiquitos creo yo, al menos si te gustan las lucas.

Cada cual con su librito, pero a mi parecer, las lucas mandan.

jajajaj Grande Lucky aunque yo creo que aca la mayoría (supongo)  podemos comer chicle y caminar a la vez , los análisis son complementarios wink


Ex Padawan en  Renta Fija........ Hoy Garante del sistema :)

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#14651 30-08-16 07:17

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Re: CAP

Eljota escribió:
Pedrots escribió:
wilsonequi escribió:

Cuando Cap va en subida todos comentan a cada rato, y ahora nadie... soy novato (mucho diría yo), pero por lo que me he dado cuenta los gráficos no siven de mucho, si no mas bien, otras cosas, por ejemplo, precio del hierro, costos, revisar los mercados extranjeros que afectan cap u otra empresa. Mi humilde opinión, me gustaría ver menos gráficos y mas datos que nos indiquen las alzas o bajas. Si estoy equivocado pido disculpas.

Es porque estaba entretenida, y ahora se volvió una acción fome, una del montón.

Ojalá se vuelva a poner entretenida, fue bueno ver tanto comentario

recuerden el indicador Chilebolsa... las más comentadas ...ahi están casi todos...si no hay mov en un tema...es señal q no hay gráficos interesantes etc..la mayoría( puedeq me equivoque) busca las interesantes y hoy Cap esta en reposo

slds


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#14652 30-08-16 07:26

Kekkaimaster
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Re: CAP

Dejo un monito para Wilsonequi, que por lo que entendí le gustan mucho.

Está haciendo lo esperado y comentado anteriormente. Se puso a lateralizar en la EMA blanca (igual que las subidas anteriores), me parece que encontró piso y se mantendrá lateral unos días para pegarse un nuevo ataque alcista.

Diario, semi

2b-in


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#14653 30-08-16 07:28

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Re: CAP

Tambien he visto los gráficos, no se si me expliqué bien, solo digo que hasta aquí ninguno a servido, solo para dar una explicación posterior. Solo lo decía que he visto pocos comentarios en otros sentidos, que tambien deberian manejar los que hacen los gráficos, complementar su análisis, aprovechando que tienen los conocimientos para ello. Tal vez, serian mas acertados. En ningún caso es para que le de risa a un amigo que comentó por ahi, es una especie de consejo de un principiante, de repente desde fuera se tiene otra perspectiva (q es lo que he podido ver en estos pocos dias que llevo aquí) tal vez estoy rotundamente equivocado... en todo caso hoy Cap repunta, lo digo sin gráficos... con respeto smile

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#14654 30-08-16 07:30

LuckyLeaks
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Re: CAP

Además de que cuando hay comentarios a la acción le está yendo bien la mayoría de las veces (indicador como ya mencionaron ChileB), y a pesar de que me vaya a veces mal en esos casos, que haya comentarios lo encuentro bueno, a veces me mato de la risa con ellos.

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#14655 30-08-16 07:31

LuckyLeaks
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Re: CAP

wilsonequi, los gráficos de brazil son buenos, los de kekkai se están volviendo interesantes tmb. Mira las zonas y las probabilidades.

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#14656 30-08-16 07:38

gokkuu
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Re: CAP

bueno y cual es tu aporte... más haya de exiguir cosas ?
tirar palabras al voleo  .. o tienes algún dato jaja
"en todo caso hoy Cap repunta, lo digo sin gráficos..."
conconfianzaaquimuchachos jaja
bienvenido xd

wilsonequi escribió:

Tambien he visto los gráficos, no se si me expliqué bien, solo digo que hasta aquí ninguno a servido, solo para dar una explicación posterior. Solo lo decía que he visto pocos comentarios en otros sentidos, que tambien deberian manejar los que hacen los gráficos, complementar su análisis, aprovechando que tienen los conocimientos para ello. Tal vez, serian mas acertados. En ningún caso es para que le de risa a un amigo que comentó por ahi, es una especie de consejo de un principiante, de repente desde fuera se tiene otra perspectiva (q es lo que he podido ver en estos pocos dias que llevo aquí) tal vez estoy rotundamente equivocado... en todo caso hoy Cap repunta, lo digo sin gráficos... con respeto smile


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#14657 30-08-16 07:40

LuckyLeaks
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Re: CAP

No seas pesado con el conconfianzaaquimuchachos, luego de esto tatan dejó de postear parece y era un aporte igual. Todos se pueden equivocar y siendo honestos, hasta no ver la vela del 17 de agosto, mal no se veía.

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#14658 30-08-16 07:47

gokkuu
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Re: CAP

Estimado no lo hago en alusión a él, sino que fue frecuente esa palabra al igual que elriesgoesestarafuera. entre otras.-  pero es la que más em quedó

LuckyLeaks escribió:

No seas pesado con el conconfianzaaquimuchachos, luego de esto tatan dejó de postear parece y era un aporte igual. Todos se pueden equivocar y siendo honestos, hasta no ver la vela del 17 de agosto, mal no se veía.


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#14659 30-08-16 07:48

Kekkaimaster
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Re: CAP

Magno error estimado, te lo aclaro ya que tirar cosas al viento es fácil.

1. Con monito posteado, indiqué que aumentar posiciones no era adecuado (cuando algunos querían aumentar), y empezo la caída, NO FUE DESPUÉS
2. Con monito posetado, algunos aplicaron su SL y protegieron sus ganancias, NO FUE DESPUÉS
3. Con monito posteado, se dio como piso de rebote a la caída 3,700 app. NO FUE DESPUÉS entregando un buena rentabilidad adicional
4. Con monito posteado, se han mostrado las zonas de rebotes y proyectado el movimiento del papel. NO FUE DESPUÉS

Al margen, molesta que alguien que no aporta y más bien pida para mover sus propias lucas critique algo que varios acá hacemos, compartiendo diversas posturas, siempre con una excelente altura de miras.

Si tienes otra forma de ver las cosas, compártelas para ver que tan exactas son.

wilsonequi escribió:

Tambien he visto los gráficos, no se si me expliqué bien, solo digo que hasta aquí ninguno a servido, solo para dar una explicación posterior. Solo lo decía que he visto pocos comentarios en otros sentidos, que tambien deberian manejar los que hacen los gráficos, complementar su análisis, aprovechando que tienen los conocimientos para ello. Tal vez, serian mas acertados. En ningún caso es para que le de risa a un amigo que comentó por ahi, es una especie de consejo de un principiante, de repente desde fuera se tiene otra perspectiva (q es lo que he podido ver en estos pocos dias que llevo aquí) tal vez estoy rotundamente equivocado... en todo caso hoy Cap repunta, lo digo sin gráficos... con respeto smile


Twitter @Kekkai_Trader
"Las pautas, por mucha historia que tengan detrás, no dicen a los mercados lo que tienen que hacer, sino que son éstos quienes las crean y las destruyen."

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#14660 30-08-16 07:55

administrador
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Re: CAP

La refutación es sencilla: quienes hacen análisis fundamental como corresponde en este país? Las corredoras y los bancos (casi nadie más).

¿Qué piensan de la performance de las corredoras en este papel?


Cada segundo comprado es un riesgo...debe valer la pena

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#14661 30-08-16 07:58

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Re: CAP

Remitamonos a CAP y no a pelear todos contra Wilson


"La Disciplina tarde o temprano vencera a la Inteligencia"

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#14662 30-08-16 08:06

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Re: CAP

Esta bien que hayan estas discusiones, aclarar que todos los hechos (datos positivos o negativos) que transcurren en el tiempo en la empresa de estudio o en su entorno (pasados, presentes o futuros), quedan plasmados en la gráfica, de ahí que el análisis técnico resulta fundamental para la toma de decisiones en el mundo de las inversiones. Saludos

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#14663 30-08-16 08:13

IMAGINE
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Re: CAP

Por ejemplo  analizando el gráfico horario de CAP, se visualiza que acaba de romper la resistencia de una cuña descendente, eso si falta confirmar la ruptura, lo que lo haría un muy buen momento de entrar, cosa que solo ves analizando la gráfica.

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#14664 30-08-16 08:16

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Re: CAP

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La refutación es sencilla: quienes hacen análisis fundamental como corresponde en este país? Las corredoras y los bancos (casi nadie más).

¿Qué piensan de la performance de las corredoras en este papel?

Buen punto.

Los que tienen departamentos de análisis, la mandaron al tacho de la basura, recuerdo que indican que el precio de Hierro llegó a su techo y ahora proyectan una contracción (tengan o no razón).

Pero lo grandioso, es que a pesar de los que digan las noticias y los fundamentos, el AT siempre te dará pasadas interesantes.


Toda crisis es una oportunidad...

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#14665 30-08-16 08:44

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Re: CAP

62120_cap.png

Que opinan??? buen punto de entrada 3361?

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#14666 30-08-16 08:57

Ing.Traderix
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Re: CAP

Estimados,,,

Favor miren grafica que ya se analizo,,,hay que esperar antes de arriesgarse a que primero cruce LT bajista de corto plazo,,,lo de hoy como se menciono anteriormente son subidas puntuales que podrian seguir hasta LT mencionada y volver a caer, pero el riesgo es individual....

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#14667 30-08-16 08:58

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Re: CAP

Miren el volumen es super bajo ademas,,,,

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#14668 30-08-16 09:04

Glein
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Re: CAP

Ing.Traderix escribió:

Miren el volumen es super bajo ademas,,,,

buen punto mirando los graficos el volumen no es suficiente como para confirmar el efecto de la LT para bien o para mal , no me saldre pero no aumentare posicion pór el momento.


Ex Padawan en  Renta Fija........ Hoy Garante del sistema :)

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#14669 30-08-16 09:07

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Re: CAP

Ing.Traderix escribió:

Miren el volumen es super bajo ademas,,,,

Es que es diario y aún no termina el día, por lo tanto el volumen debe ser menor (a no ser que haya una gran noticia), si comparto que el riesgo es individual, solo preguntaba para realizar una operación flash y ganar unos pocos %

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#14670 30-08-16 11:35

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Re: CAP

Muchas gracias y tambien a ROnin

Saludos


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